As clean as a fly's hands and feet after it just flew off a piece of dog sh*t!
-Freddy
many witnesses take pride in being part of a 'clean' organization, but is it really?
consider a few real examples:
you attend a congregation in which many of the young girls get pregnant by their
As clean as a fly's hands and feet after it just flew off a piece of dog sh*t!
-Freddy
from mathew 27:50-5350and when jesus had cried out again in a loud voice, he gave up his spirit.
51at that moment the curtain of the temple was torn in two from top to bottom.
the earth shook and the rocks split.
From Mathew 27:50-53
50 And when Jesus had cried out again in a loud voice, he gave up his spirit.
51 At that moment the curtain of the temple was torn in two from top to bottom. The earth shook and the rocks split. 52 The tombs broke open and the bodies of many holy people who had died were raised to life. 53 They came out of the tombs, and after Jesus' resurrection they went into the holy city and appeared to many people.
Now the interesting thing here is that many other holy people came out of their tombs and were resurrected. There were many people that witnessed this. (Even though the BIBLE doesn't speak furthur on this, as a matter fact - only Mathew does. There are however secular stories and accounts of this, which I will not go into here.) Now vs. 53 is different in different translations. Some say after Jesus ressurection and some aren't as clear, like the above.
The point and question I have. Why not more on this in the BIBLE. This is a huge witness of the power of God and of ressurection itself (If true?). These people were ressurected without direct contact with Jesus. It was all together. ALL over. But instead, today, easter rolls around and the account is spoken about as if Jesus was the sole person ressurected. I know it's because historically in the Christian faith his ressurection is all that matters anyway. O.k. enough of my ramblings. What's your thoughts on this? Anyone?
-Freddy
the idea of god is either a fact,like sand,or a fantasy,like santa.. the idea of god has guided or deluded more lives,changed more history,inspired more music and poetry and philosophy than anything else,real or imagined.it has made more of a difference to human life on this planet,both individually and collectively,than anything else ever has.. to see this clearly for yourself,just try this thought experiment:.
suppose no one in history had ever conceived the idea of god.now,rewrite history following that premise.the task daunts and staggers the imagination.
.from the earliest human remains----- religious funeral artifacts-----to the most recent wars in the mideast,religion----belief in a god or gods----has been the mainspring of the whole watch that is human history.. if the idea of god is a fantasy,a human invention,it is the greatest invention of all human history.. there are only two possibilities,"to be or not to be",that is the question.. blueblades
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Freddie, it is not necessarily true that most African tribes do not have some form of "religion" with a figurehead.
I never said "African" tribes or religion.
There are many tribes and peoples that have no concept of a god.
That was my statement, but that doesn't mean I don't agree with you also. Their belief with the baboons is still based on this belief within their tribe. No outside influence. I guess that kind of agrees with Gumby -
It is part of a humans makeup to ponder the idea.......that someone bigger and greater is out there watching.-Freddy
the idea of god is either a fact,like sand,or a fantasy,like santa.. the idea of god has guided or deluded more lives,changed more history,inspired more music and poetry and philosophy than anything else,real or imagined.it has made more of a difference to human life on this planet,both individually and collectively,than anything else ever has.. to see this clearly for yourself,just try this thought experiment:.
suppose no one in history had ever conceived the idea of god.now,rewrite history following that premise.the task daunts and staggers the imagination.
.from the earliest human remains----- religious funeral artifacts-----to the most recent wars in the mideast,religion----belief in a god or gods----has been the mainspring of the whole watch that is human history.. if the idea of god is a fantasy,a human invention,it is the greatest invention of all human history.. there are only two possibilities,"to be or not to be",that is the question.. blueblades
Gumby - perfect point. I agree whole heartedly. There are many tribes and peoples that have no concept of a god. No worries. They know what they know. They believe, what they believe. Does that mean they are condemned? (by who? hmmmmmmmm)
They have no stress, no concept of what's wrong and right except what's tought in their tribe. What's wrong to us is right to them, and vice versa. We are tought these concepts. Just like fear.
A child is not afraid of a picture of Freddy Krueger. It is only when we associate that picture to a scary movie or situation that it becomes frightning. A child just sees a figure, he/she has no concept of fear. It is an association.
What we associate we learn, what we learn, we believe, what we believe, becomes fact - TO US. That doesn't mean it is true.
God where are you?
-Freddy
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thank you for calling god, please leave a message at the beep or press 5 to leave a fax.
<beep>
O.k I really wish you would pick up. It's been long enough, we are past the written word. I don't understand this. You make me look through this book that everyone says is inspired, everything is a he said, she said thing. Now I have to leave a message on your machine. How do I know this is even your machine. Come on God, we've evolved. Oh you probably don't like that term. Anyway we have. You should at least have a web site. Many of us do. Send us some photos. Even fake ones. Something... We need a sign!!!!
P.S. I'm having this huge party tomorrow, and all I have is these twelve giant barrels of water. Any chance you could help out. I'll take that as a sign.
-Freddy
as jws were were told that a woman had to scream if she was threatened with rape.
then some articles seemed to say that it was not mandatory but recommended and then it seems that the society reversed itself again by suggesting that it was ultimately up to the female as to whether she screamed or not........at this point in time, if you were to discuss with your child the options that she might take, what would you recommend?
would you still feel that screaming and fighting is the best avenue to take or would you think that there's nothing that you could suggest if such a terrible thing were to happen, that her life is the only thing that is important?
There was a study done awhile back (I don't remember the source.) that in the instance of being in a situation where a rape may occur. The victim was better off yelling "Fire!" then screaming or yelling rape. More people come to the rescue of people in the dangerous situation of being in a fire before they would help someone being raped.
Sad but true.
Also, as stated, self defense techniques and learning to fend off an attacker is a great way to protect and learn how to handle yourself if this horrible predicament is ever brought before you.
It probably wouldn't be a bad idea to carry a weapon of some sort either (mace, handgun, etc.)
"Do you feel lucky punk? Do ya?" - Dirty Harry
the idea of god is either a fact,like sand,or a fantasy,like santa.. the idea of god has guided or deluded more lives,changed more history,inspired more music and poetry and philosophy than anything else,real or imagined.it has made more of a difference to human life on this planet,both individually and collectively,than anything else ever has.. to see this clearly for yourself,just try this thought experiment:.
suppose no one in history had ever conceived the idea of god.now,rewrite history following that premise.the task daunts and staggers the imagination.
.from the earliest human remains----- religious funeral artifacts-----to the most recent wars in the mideast,religion----belief in a god or gods----has been the mainspring of the whole watch that is human history.. if the idea of god is a fantasy,a human invention,it is the greatest invention of all human history.. there are only two possibilities,"to be or not to be",that is the question.. blueblades
No dispute there. An invention (if God is invented) that we take on faith, and that is so real to so many. Our own currency, The american dollar says "In God we trust" even if you don't. You go to court and you have to swear on a bible. Even if you don't believe in it. So, this God belief is the greatest invention (again - if it is invented) the universe has ever known.
In agreement with you Blue.
-Freddy
the idea of god is either a fact,like sand,or a fantasy,like santa.. the idea of god has guided or deluded more lives,changed more history,inspired more music and poetry and philosophy than anything else,real or imagined.it has made more of a difference to human life on this planet,both individually and collectively,than anything else ever has.. to see this clearly for yourself,just try this thought experiment:.
suppose no one in history had ever conceived the idea of god.now,rewrite history following that premise.the task daunts and staggers the imagination.
.from the earliest human remains----- religious funeral artifacts-----to the most recent wars in the mideast,religion----belief in a god or gods----has been the mainspring of the whole watch that is human history.. if the idea of god is a fantasy,a human invention,it is the greatest invention of all human history.. there are only two possibilities,"to be or not to be",that is the question.. blueblades
Or, if you take Santa and move the "N" to the end you get Satan.
What does that have to do with anything? Nothing. Because according to your question. There is no concept of Satan or God and we are now going to try and rewrite a history or make one up based on the fact that God was never written about or created on paper or anywhere else in history.
So where do I start? I don't. Except to say, I guess the first question that started this whole thing in the first place:
"Where did I come from?"
Now we go back in time and we kill this guy and tell him to keep it to himself because of the mass confusion and the books that will be written and the wars and killings because of this being that is going to come into our conciousness now, because of this age old question.
Or..... God steps in at this point and speaks for himself. Now there's the answer. No more guessing. No more questions? No more wondering is this piece of parchment inspired or not. The big man(or woman, or sheep, or blob, etc...) speaks for himself (herself/sheepself/blobself.etc.).
How's that for an answer.
-Freddy
i'm a recent departee and am now re-evaluating all my previous beliefs and there's none more fundamental.
however, i'm not sure where to start: i'm sure i don't need to say there's an enormous amount of nonsense out there.
frankly, in spite of their other stupid teachings, i am considering reviewing again the articles in wt library as i think they do try to sincerely prove the existence of god.
O.k sorry, I had to put my scene up. Perfect question for Freddy's famous quote.
Anyway, My thought is there is an energy force in this universe. And I do think it used an act of creation. Whether that act involved evolution, I am not sure. But I don't believe the bible account is factual. More mythilogical. Surrounding the truth or hiding it, who knows?
Now, not to steal your thunder "IT support", but God or no God, are we dead when we die or does our God belief change this also?
"This is God!"
hey everybody, i don't know if this has been talked about before, but here is an amazing case that is documented and took place in the seventies.
is it a spirit?
is it our mind?
Yes, I agree Nathan the film should be treasured. So, like I said this could be a hoax. If everyone involved in the party was in on it is another matter. Reading about it like I said, it looks like they wanted to prove something psychologically. Then they got more. ????????? If actually performed and not acted out.
I too am a fan of Penn & Teller. Also I am well aware Houdini debunked almost all seances and the likes of pychics. I was interested in this case because of the fact of it's psychological aspect. Then again, a hoax is a hoax. There is a very good book (totally fiction) by David Ambrose called "Superstition" which fictionalizes this account. There is also many studies being conducted on this subject of "Parapsychology"
Oh, also I am very familiar with the fairy incident. They pulled that off for awhile too. I didn't look at your link yet but if I recall The bellybuttons turned out to be pinheads on the photographs.
http://www.princeton.edu/~pear/
The above is a really interesting link on the subject of concioussness-related physical phenomena. My whole interest is if the concious is doing this. Even mind over matter, or telekenisis. (Which is an entirely different study) What does that say about our physical realm, or energy level of the universe? Ghosts could be just another by-product of the mind. However there is something then going on beneath the surface of what we call reality regardless. What is the cause? That is the question?
-Freddy